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Topic: Stuck on Winter's Hill

• Vood
  
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  Re: Stuck on Winter's Hill

  3 January 2014 at 6:48pm

  Found this old post - http://www.destiny-quest.com/forums/here-be-spoilers/show/839#post839

  I think rod of enfeeblement is right way to go.
• Alziel
  
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  Re: Stuck on Winter's Hill

  3 January 2014 at 6:49pm

  Thanks for the response, Vood.

  The three Charm items (Gloves, Traveller's Band and Funeral Gown) all carry +1 Speed as well and every replacement that I've come across so far doesn't have that bonus, so if I swapped them then my Speed would drop even lower which I really can't afford.

  You do need to complete Winter's Hill - if you try to start 'Against all Odds' there is a note at the very beginning stating that you must have finished 'Winter's Hill' before starting the quest.

  Well, I just failed my 26th attempt to kill the Necro and Skeleton Horde. I still have my Speed Elixirs as I know that if I use them and lose the battle again I won't be able to buy any more potions.

  PS. The rod set-up that is suggested in the post that you linked me to above is exactly how I have my rods set up (Rending is North, Slowing is East and Enfeeblement is West). But it's not really helping - if I lose a round (which I nearly always do) I get hammered by 2 dice + 20 Magic minus my very low Armour (2 per blow), and I only have my one Heal ability. So it doesn't really help when I only have 50 Health. I'm seriously considering cheating which I really don't want to do.
• Vood
  
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  Re: Stuck on Winter's Hill

  3 January 2014 at 6:53pm

  I looked back at my copy. It is the first hardback so may have got changed. Text for Against All Odds says you must have participated in the quest Winters Hill. It doesn't say you must have completed it. Failing it was ok. I think.....
• Alziel
  
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  Re: Stuck on Winter's Hill

  3 January 2014 at 6:59pm

  Mmm - interesting. Mine is the latest edition and it also says 'participated...'. I think I'll take that as a green light to go ahead and play 'Against all Odds' then - doesn't feel much like cheating. Hopefully the narrative will make sense!

  I can come back to Winter's Hill when I've grown in strength.

  Thanks for the help, Vood!

  Update: Just completed 'Against all Odds' and I breezed through it (although all four allied defenders were killed). I switched my left hand weapon to Grasping Grimm, gaining 1 Speed (taking me to 12 Speed) and losing 'Shackle' but gaining 'Rake'. I also gained 130 GC (100 from completing the mission and 30 from Midas Touch), so I can now buy potions again.

  I am now convinced that the Necro/Skeleton fight in 'Winter's Hill' is too tough for an orange quest encounter - it's a much tougher fight than any that I encountered in 'Against all Odds' and that's supposed to be one difficulty level higher.
• Tisamon
  
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  Re: Stuck on Winter's Hill

  3 January 2014 at 11:43pm

  Cos your speed is too low. Lose crown of command and get something better. It has no speed.
• Alziel
  
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  Re: Stuck on Winter's Hill

  4 January 2014 at 1:00am

  Well - I finally finished Winter's Hill - but I did it by cheating, so it feels hollow.

  I had almost achieved a genuine victory as the Skeletons had 2 Health remaining and I had 17 remaining but they got in two successful and heavy blows which would have killed me. I had no potions left, no abilities and only 7GC - so I decided to re-use 'Command' figuring that the battle had been dragging on long enough for the ability to recharge. Well - that's my justification.

  Anyway, the next two battles were fairly straightforward and I won both legitimately although it came very close with Rottaghast. Again - the Necro/Skeleton fight seemed to stick out like a sore thumb in terms of difficulty.

  I acknowledge that I could do with more Speed and I now do intend to change my headgear as soon as I get a chance - I had held on to it because the 'Command' ability had proved so useful and the extra Magic was nice.

  It does seem a bit of a shame that I came undone towards the end of the game because my Speed was a point or so too low - the importance of that one stat seems to limit customization more than I would like.

  Having said all this, I think the game is excellent and I'm having great fun with it. I just wish I could have progressed to the end without resorting to a cheat. I'll place a much higher priority on 'Speed' items in my next run through I suppose. I do hope 'Heart of Fire' is a little more balanced in this respect.